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		<title>By: Alina</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-4682</link>
		<dc:creator>Alina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late to the party... but I just wanted to add something. 
I&#039;m from a country where gratuity is included... and still most people pay 15-20% tips. Why? Because they&#039;re embarassed not to... 
But if they don&#039;t leave a tip, at least it&#039;s already covered in the price for the food. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#039;m late to the party&#8230; but I just wanted to add something.<br />
I&#039;m from a country where gratuity is included&#8230; and still most people pay 15-20% tips. Why? Because they&#039;re embarassed not to&#8230;<br />
But if they don&#039;t leave a tip, at least it&#039;s already covered in the price for the food.</p>
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		<title>By: gringo</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-3164</link>
		<dc:creator>gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bet people LOVE going out to dinner with you.  There&#039;s always something sad about having to pretend to have forgotten something at the table when people like you pay for dinner.  We are going back and slipping a proper tip on the bill.  Even if we never go back to the place, you might and we were seen there with you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bet people LOVE going out to dinner with you.  There&#039;s always something sad about having to pretend to have forgotten something at the table when people like you pay for dinner.  We are going back and slipping a proper tip on the bill.  Even if we never go back to the place, you might and we were seen there with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-3163</link>
		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should you be offended?  She is absolutely correct in inferring that most Brits know what tipping in the U.S. should be and a large percentage overlook it.  To be fair, you are not the worst nationality to wait on, far from it.  That prize has been won the world over by the Argentinians.  To be even more fair, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily wrong to assume that Americans have a lower intelligence than our first world counterparts.  Most of our children are unable to even locate your island on a world map.  We are loud, often drink too much of the wrong wine, but most of us tip well even if we feel slighted. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should you be offended?  She is absolutely correct in inferring that most Brits know what tipping in the U.S. should be and a large percentage overlook it.  To be fair, you are not the worst nationality to wait on, far from it.  That prize has been won the world over by the Argentinians.  To be even more fair, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily wrong to assume that Americans have a lower intelligence than our first world counterparts.  Most of our children are unable to even locate your island on a world map.  We are loud, often drink too much of the wrong wine, but most of us tip well even if we feel slighted.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-2778</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is total bullcrap, you shoud have  been tipped at the very least one hundred. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is total bullcrap, you shoud have  been tipped at the very least one hundred.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-1580</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 04:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the same old song and dance. If you want to stereotype, let&#039;s start by saying that the British, prior to visiting the U.S., spend hours, sometimes days, scanning travel guides and the Internet for the best values. You cannot tell me that at some time (perhaps when they&#039;re studying State Department guides on safety and customs) they don&#039;t run into the fact that a tip is expected in a restaurant.

I recently served a table of six visitors from Brazil. They were very worldly and although their English wasn&#039;t the best, they knew the names of all the &quot;hip&quot; cocktails being served at the time. We bent over backwards for this young professional bunch, who seemed to be having a very, very good time. We even comped them a number of beers and a round of premium shots.

They left $0 on a bar tab of $285. I actually confronted them on the way out and asked if there was a gratuity for our servers forthcoming, and perhaps they&#039;d forgotten. Like a bad Spanish stereotype, they all, in unison, shrugged their shoulders, with wide eyes, and blurted &quot;oh, I don&#039;t know.&quot; And then kept walking. 

The moment I accused the ringleader, a macho guy who seemed in control of the party, of having &quot;a small dick,&quot; his attitude changed. I thought he was angry and was going to hit me. Instead, I&#039;d shamed him into giving my staff a gratuity. He pulled a $20 from his wallet and gave it to me. To which I said &quot;thank you very much and have a good evening.&quot;

So much of it is all about playing stupid and thinking you&#039;re getting over on one of your fellow human beings -- because in this kind of delicate situation, you can.

&quot;Because you can&quot; is also the reason amoral idiots take money that doesn&#039;t belong to them in the split-second someone&#039;s not watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the same old song and dance. If you want to stereotype, let&#8217;s start by saying that the British, prior to visiting the U.S., spend hours, sometimes days, scanning travel guides and the Internet for the best values. You cannot tell me that at some time (perhaps when they&#8217;re studying State Department guides on safety and customs) they don&#8217;t run into the fact that a tip is expected in a restaurant.</p>
<p>I recently served a table of six visitors from Brazil. They were very worldly and although their English wasn&#8217;t the best, they knew the names of all the &#8220;hip&#8221; cocktails being served at the time. We bent over backwards for this young professional bunch, who seemed to be having a very, very good time. We even comped them a number of beers and a round of premium shots.</p>
<p>They left $0 on a bar tab of $285. I actually confronted them on the way out and asked if there was a gratuity for our servers forthcoming, and perhaps they&#8217;d forgotten. Like a bad Spanish stereotype, they all, in unison, shrugged their shoulders, with wide eyes, and blurted &#8220;oh, I don&#8217;t know.&#8221; And then kept walking. </p>
<p>The moment I accused the ringleader, a macho guy who seemed in control of the party, of having &#8220;a small dick,&#8221; his attitude changed. I thought he was angry and was going to hit me. Instead, I&#8217;d shamed him into giving my staff a gratuity. He pulled a $20 from his wallet and gave it to me. To which I said &#8220;thank you very much and have a good evening.&#8221;</p>
<p>So much of it is all about playing stupid and thinking you&#8217;re getting over on one of your fellow human beings &#8212; because in this kind of delicate situation, you can.</p>
<p>&#8220;Because you can&#8221; is also the reason amoral idiots take money that doesn&#8217;t belong to them in the split-second someone&#8217;s not watching.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmel Veteran Waitr</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmel Veteran Waitr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant tourists not tourinsts </description>
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		<title>By: Carmel Veteran Waitr</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmel Veteran Waitr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Distressed, 
I feel your pain. I&#039;ve been serving in Carmel for over 13 years now. It&#039;s a great job, and even without a formal education it has allowed me to buy a home and work only 4 days a week. My philosophy is work to live not live to work. I serve my fair share of tourinsts in Carmel and I have to say you are so right about Brits being cheap, but let&#039;s be honest, the Germans &amp; French are usually poor tippers too, not to mension the ever stingy Brazilians!! So, about a year ago I started writing on the bottom of their checks...&quot;Gratuity NOT Included 15%=$/20%=$&quot;.  This  system works for me 99% of the time &amp; I recommend you try it! :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Distressed,</p>
<p>I feel your pain. I&#039;ve been serving in Carmel for over 13 years now. It&#039;s a great job, and even without a formal education it has allowed me to buy a home and work only 4 days a week. My philosophy is work to live not live to work. I serve my fair share of tourinsts in Carmel and I have to say you are so right about Brits being cheap, but let&#039;s be honest, the Germans &amp; French are usually poor tippers too, not to mension the ever stingy Brazilians!! So, about a year ago I started writing on the bottom of their checks&#8230;&quot;Gratuity NOT Included 15%=$/20%=$&quot;.  This  system works for me 99% of the time &amp; I recommend you try it! <img src='http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KPinky</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator>KPinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely ridiculous with what I&#039;m reading about this post and the replies. 
 
I&#039;m Australian, we have a British system when it comes to dining. I don&#039;t believe in paying extra just because it is expected and especially when there are people like this posted complaining about the amount left, have some manners and be greatful.  
 
In the UK and Australia people DO tip but only when the service is above and beyond so in other words if you do your job well you will be rewarded. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely ridiculous with what I&#039;m reading about this post and the replies.</p>
<p>I&#039;m Australian, we have a British system when it comes to dining. I don&#039;t believe in paying extra just because it is expected and especially when there are people like this posted complaining about the amount left, have some manners and be greatful. </p>
<p>In the UK and Australia people DO tip but only when the service is above and beyond so in other words if you do your job well you will be rewarded.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When in Rome, right? 
 
In the USA, you tip.  Elsewhere, you learn the rules and go by them.  If you want to visit here (USA) that&#039;s the deal.  I would love to visit Britain, and I plan to learn/follow whatever etiquette is considered proper.   
 
I once had British friends visit and I took them out to dinner. They were/are lovely people, and we had a very nice time.  When I went to pay the bill, I asked them to wait a moment so I could get some change to leave a tip for the waiter (and by &quot;change&quot; I mean change for a $20, and such, not cents :)).  They got up to leave and I came back to the table to find a waiter looking daggers at us.  I immediately left a generous tip (his service was very good) and my guests commented that they had forgotten that that was necessary, as it wasn&#039;t done back home. 
 
No damage was done, and I didn&#039;t expect them to leave anything - they were my guests, and I was taking care of all the meal expenses.  But I&#039;ll never forget the look on the poor waiter&#039;s face when he thought we were walking out on him.  I wanted to die. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When in Rome, right?</p>
<p>In the USA, you tip.  Elsewhere, you learn the rules and go by them.  If you want to visit here (USA) that&#039;s the deal.  I would love to visit Britain, and I plan to learn/follow whatever etiquette is considered proper.  </p>
<p>I once had British friends visit and I took them out to dinner. They were/are lovely people, and we had a very nice time.  When I went to pay the bill, I asked them to wait a moment so I could get some change to leave a tip for the waiter (and by &quot;change&quot; I mean change for a $20, and such, not cents <img src='http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).  They got up to leave and I came back to the table to find a waiter looking daggers at us.  I immediately left a generous tip (his service was very good) and my guests commented that they had forgotten that that was necessary, as it wasn&#039;t done back home.</p>
<p>No damage was done, and I didn&#039;t expect them to leave anything &#8211; they were my guests, and I was taking care of all the meal expenses.  But I&#039;ll never forget the look on the poor waiter&#039;s face when he thought we were walking out on him.  I wanted to die.</p>
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		<title>By: DragonFly</title>
		<link>http://www.dinnersfromhell.com/2008/10/stiffed-by-brits/#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>DragonFly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in the restaurant biz off and on for 35+years. Uptown and downtown. A 15% tip is not acceptable any more, I don&#039;t care how you justify it.  It&#039;s ancient, archaic. The cost of living has increased significantly since that  &quot;rule of thumb&quot; came into place. Tipping on wine bottles is iffy. Some do, some don&#039;t. There is no hard fast rule on it. I don&#039;t agree on tipping after tax.  I agree that $44.00 on the food bill was substandard. They should have left $60.00 on the food, the wine is debatable.  
As far as Kweh&#039;s comments: You must be joking right?? I have many friends from the UK and even they would disagree with your comments about the Brits being known for their etiquette. 
 
To Cat: Having just returned from a month in Auz-Seriously, you must be joking! Servers get paid from $14.50-$25.oo @hr. there. I surveyed them from Melbourne up to Airlie Beach and all points in between. The service sucks in Auz for the most part. Can&#039;t tell you how many times I had to get my own utensils, napkins and hunt down the server because there were food issues. They&#039;d look at me as if I was as speaking an alien language, and for the most part, I was. Lazy people. Greedy Americans?? Oh that is rich. More like greedy, pay me for doing nothing Auzzies.  
 
Morris: Like you saying that you&#039;re not going to eat out any more is going to halt the restaurant industry in the US. If you want to dream, go to sleep. Oh, sorry...you were talking in your sleep. Just giving you the benefit of the doubt.  
 
I don&#039;t think the US citizens need to be aware any more of cultural differences. Why?? Because the rest of the planet knows we are about &quot;PC&quot; and they take advantage of it. I travel extensively-around the US and outside of it. It is about &quot;When in Rome...&quot; Trust me, you don&#039;t get any slack outside of the US, even in Canada.  
 
D.G.: You are the one that server&#039;s love to write about on waiterrant. com. You better watch out when eating out, as server&#039;s are on to your type. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been in the restaurant biz off and on for 35+years. Uptown and downtown. A 15% tip is not acceptable any more, I don&#039;t care how you justify it.  It&#039;s ancient, archaic. The cost of living has increased significantly since that  &quot;rule of thumb&quot; came into place. Tipping on wine bottles is iffy. Some do, some don&#039;t. There is no hard fast rule on it. I don&#039;t agree on tipping after tax.  I agree that $44.00 on the food bill was substandard. They should have left $60.00 on the food, the wine is debatable. </p>
<p>As far as Kweh&#039;s comments: You must be joking right?? I have many friends from the UK and even they would disagree with your comments about the Brits being known for their etiquette.</p>
<p>To Cat: Having just returned from a month in Auz-Seriously, you must be joking! Servers get paid from $14.50-$25.oo @hr. there. I surveyed them from Melbourne up to Airlie Beach and all points in between. The service sucks in Auz for the most part. Can&#039;t tell you how many times I had to get my own utensils, napkins and hunt down the server because there were food issues. They&#039;d look at me as if I was as speaking an alien language, and for the most part, I was. Lazy people. Greedy Americans?? Oh that is rich. More like greedy, pay me for doing nothing Auzzies. </p>
<p>Morris: Like you saying that you&#039;re not going to eat out any more is going to halt the restaurant industry in the US. If you want to dream, go to sleep. Oh, sorry&#8230;you were talking in your sleep. Just giving you the benefit of the doubt. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t think the US citizens need to be aware any more of cultural differences. Why?? Because the rest of the planet knows we are about &quot;PC&quot; and they take advantage of it. I travel extensively-around the US and outside of it. It is about &quot;When in Rome&#8230;&quot; Trust me, you don&#039;t get any slack outside of the US, even in Canada. </p>
<p>D.G.: You are the one that server&#039;s love to write about on waiterrant. com. You better watch out when eating out, as server&#039;s are on to your type.</p>
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